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Re: This Europe Stuff

Reply #7965
I think 35:45:20 No deal :May's deal:Softer deal now

If the self-interested w@nker MP's hadn't been arseholes last night then it may well have been different

Re: This Europe Stuff

Reply #7966
I think 35:45:20 No deal :May's deal:Softer deal now

If the self-interested w@nker MP's hadn't been arseholes last night then it may well have been different

This has always been the plan.  Delay anything and everything until no deal happens.  For a little while, I thought it wasn't going to work.

I wonder how long it will take before those who voted for it will realise how much they've been lied to.

I wonder how long it will be before you can't find anyone tht's prepared to admit they voted for it.

Re: This Europe Stuff

Reply #7967
Another PM statement incoming, apparently.

Re: This Europe Stuff

Reply #7968
This has always been the plan.  Delay anything and everything until no deal happens.  For a little while, I thought it wasn't going to work.


May genuinely wants her deal to go through.

In other news, she's apparently doing another statement soon. TV should save on the travel and just show the previous version of her telling MPs they should vote for her deal and there's no other option.

Re: This Europe Stuff

Reply #7969
Another PM statement incoming, apparently.

Seems to be mixed messages on that. Media hearing rumours she will make a statment, but No. 10 spokesman says nothing is planned. I suspect the media have it right.
It seems that there is some filibustering going on in the Commons right now on motions which normally would be dealt with quickly. Some suspect this is because the government is preparing to submit an order of business motion for tomorrow; that would seem to corroborate the rumours.

Re: This Europe Stuff

Reply #7970
Seems to be mixed messages on that. Media hearing rumours she will make a statment, but No. 10 spokesman says nothing is planned. I suspect the media have it right.
It seems that there is some filibustering going on in the Commons right now on motions which normally would be dealt with quickly. Some suspect this is because the government is preparing to submit an order of business motion for tomorrow; that would seem to corroborate the rumours.

Whilst the cabinet, apparently, are being plied with booze behind a locked door as the PM writes another statement.


Re: This Europe Stuff

Reply #7972
So it's May's deal and Corbyn's fault if it goes tits up then.


Re: This Europe Stuff

Reply #7974
Whatever you think of Corbyn,, this is a Tory f*ck up, top to bottom.


I wasn't suggesting otherwise; just summarising the announcement.

Re: This Europe Stuff

Reply #7975
Help KM, what does this mean? Presumably Corbyn will only agree a soft Brexit that keeps us in Single Market but loses us our place at the table. If he gets that he won't want a referendum on it any more than May would, but it essentially brings a solution that no one wants surely? Is it as simple as share the process, share the blame?

Re: This Europe Stuff

Reply #7976
I wasn't suggesting otherwise; just summarising the announcement.

Oh, apologies, didn't mean to imply you had. Just a little annoyed at how widespread the blame is for this when it's a Tory f*ckup, brewed over the last 40 years.

Re: This Europe Stuff

Reply #7977
I guess this announcement also keeps her and the Tories in at number 10 which is the bottom line of what they want to achieve. It kicks the can of a 2nd Ref or a General Election further down the road. Again.

Re: This Europe Stuff

Reply #7978
Help KM, what does this mean? Presumably Corbyn will only agree a soft Brexit that keeps us in Single Market but loses us our place at the table. If he gets that he won't want a referendum on it any more than May would, but it essentially brings a solution that no one wants surely? Is it as simple as share the process, share the blame?


This this sums it up:

@davidallengreen
All May has said is, in effect, that she will ask EU27 to reopen the 22 May date which has lapsed, if the Deal goes through before 12 April.

To place UK back in position had WA been passed by 29 March.

This is an attempt to reheat EU offer from last week.

Seven hours for this?

 

Re: This Europe Stuff

Reply #7979
So she is willing to talk to Corbyn but only if her deal is part of the deal? Wtf?