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The Daily Cut and Thrust / Re: This Europe Stuff
Oh behave, "basically impossible".

One of the claims was that we would "take back control". But by leaving the EU we would leave ourselves subject to the control of EU standards and directives with no input into the making of these. This is a loss of control by any definition. Taking back control is just a myth, like most of the nonsense spouted. Much as the Brexiteers would like to wind the clock back and have things back to how they were in the 50's the world has moved on and yes it is impossible to achieve that.

The Daily Cut and Thrust / Re: Qatar
Is football even a thing in Qatar? I assumed it was just entirely made up for international prestige.

Its just England's luck that the development process we've been through may come to fruition at a tournament in a drink free authoritarian desert in totally sterile stadiums.

Not sure where you are planning to spend next Sunday, but it doesn't sound like a lot of fun.
The Daily Cut and Thrust / Re: The World Cup Thread
For me the team hasn't really needed to get out of third gear yet so we haven't seen what they are really capable of. 

Anyway I'll go into Wednesday with completely unjustified expectations and enjoy the ride.

I just hope it  doesn't go to penalties as even though we are now officially brilliant at these I don't fancy our chances at them against Croatia.
The Daily Cut and Thrust / Re: This Europe Stuff
I have to believe there's some sort of cunning plan beneath it all. May in collusion with the civil service have systematically f*cked up the whole thing to torpedo any actual brexsh!tty outcome.

Certainly if you constructed a plan to make an absolute clusterf*ck of the process,  it would look quite like this.

If there is a cunning plan (and I struggle to believe that this shower are capable of such a thing) I'd worry that it's equally likely to be intended to force the hardest of Brexits and lay the blame for the outfall on the nasty Europeans who wouldn't play the game the way we wanted to.
The Daily Cut and Thrust / Re: This Europe Stuff
It feels to me like we're edging towards an endgame where we have some kind of not-quite but almost EEA / Norway deal, meaning:

a) a hit to an already structurally unsound economy, if not the economic beheading it could have been
b) no say in what goes on in Europe
c) a massive lessening of our European and global influence
c) no resolution to the national infighting about our relationship with Europe.

Good work, Cameron.

You forgot the blue passports.