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The Daily Cut and Thrust / Re: The managerial merry-go-round
Last post by tricky -
The second hand story I have from an impeccable source (RD, formerly of these parts) is that Mourinho is very much the latter, in which he demonstrated himself to be an absolutely class in a football situation away from the bright lights. I'm sure I can tell the story if anyone cares, but it's basically related to the way he treated a lower league club who got drawn away at Chelsea in the Cup a number of years ago. Maybe he's changed since then, but hearing it has made me always have a soft spot for him.
 
 Was the source for this story Luke Shaw, or Dele Ali?
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The Daily Cut and Thrust / Re: Them there t'other clubs
Last post by Simon. Not Steve or Nazimon -
I tell you one thing that's for certain: if it does go ahead, there will be full stadiums (covid dependent) and good enough TV ratings. All talk of boycotts significant enough to hurt is bullsh!t.

The newspapers might be outraged now but that doesn't mean they'll treat it like the glorified pre-season invitational tournament it would be. Because fans will fall in line and will want to read about it.
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The Daily Cut and Thrust / Re: The managerial merry-go-round
Last post by noodlé -
There are a lot of happily retired players and managers who are happy they get to say how awful this will be without worrying about the fact that they 100% would have been a part of it.

We can speculate about Jose.. but maybe there is a difference between being opposed to something happening and then getting on board once it has happened. See, for example, literally everyone involved in ManYoo when the Glazers arrived.
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The Daily Cut and Thrust / Re: The managerial merry-go-round
Last post by a JP -
I can well believe that JM is great company, charming, funny etc. You can see that in him. I can also believe that he treats people of lower status very well.

If you think that a Mourihno who was still in demand as a manager wouldn't take up a job offer from Man City or Arsenal or Barcelona just because they were in the Super League, I've got news for you.
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The Daily Cut and Thrust / Re: The Plague, 2020/21
Last post by noodlé -
But that's not true. Local health authorities have loads of experience in this sort of stuff. They use it for STDs, for example, and have access to lots of labs. The Tories decided for ideological reasons not to use the exisiting public sector expertise and resources and to instead start a private sector f*ck up with their mates.

The scale of what was required for Covid was massively out of proportion to any existing structures (because the key failures were already banked before any of this), so it's probably a little unfair to be saying 'they should have just scaled that up' when, at the same time, they have been taking a great deal of flak for handing out contracts to companies (not all of whom employ someone who was best man for the minister responsible) which were vastly out of proportion with their prior experiences.

But, still, starting local probably would have been a much better approach - but I don't think the ideological error was 'public sector bad' but, rather, 'this needs a top-down solution and the only way to do that is by employing these very expensive people in suits'. The effect is the same, but conclusions one draws form the error (and the learnings form it) are not. That's my take, anyway. You do make a good point.
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The Daily Cut and Thrust / Re: Them there t'other clubs
Last post by charlie -
See also: glory supporting kids. I blame your lots generation for this in particular. Loads of kids at my school "supported" the big teams (and ultimately this). You should of educated your kids better, my football or no football you little b@stards. 

Ha, all my kids are Forest fans. It's part of the deal when you become part of our family. Even my daughter's partner has relegated Arsenal (his boyhood club) to second place in his affections, behind Forest.
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The Daily Cut and Thrust / Re: Them there t'other clubs
Last post by Unbelievable Jeff! -
The absolute worst case scenario is the SL going ahead but the six clubs remaining in the EPL, which would effectively be feeding their financial habit while they flew around the world playing exhibition matches.

You could see this playing out where the league is treated the way they currently treat the cups. The money comes from Europe so the league is just something they do at weekends, with the white ball players away on their yachts.
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The Daily Cut and Thrust / Re: Them there t'other clubs
Last post by a JP -
I for one would be happy if these clubs left. With them gone you might get agreement amongst the other clubs on some sort of appropriate financial restraint.

The absolute worst case scenario is the SL going ahead but the six clubs remaining in the EPL, which would effectively be feeding their financial habit while they flew around the world playing exhibition matches.
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The Daily Cut and Thrust / Re: Them there t'other clubs
Last post by Unbelievable Jeff! -
And people like us (legacy fans) aren't the prize. They want the new fans in Africa and India and the Far East - people who know nothing about football culture and care even less, but are eager to buy shirts and perfumes and trainers associated with big name stars and to watch a bit of soccer on the TV as mere entertainment

See also: glory supporting kids. I blame your lots generation for this in particular. Loads of kids at my school "supported" the big teams (and ultimately this). You should of educated your kids better, my football or no football you little b@stards.