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The Daily Cut and Thrust / Re: Them there t'other clubs
Last post by Russ -
Correct. Co-operating with the values and rules of the organisation, can be a requirement to retain the golden share - or obrain it. In the same way that extra requirements on financial protection of football debt (beyond the laws of the land) are a requirement.

This is an issue of governance, not impossibility of meaningful sanction - it's right there. Sure, you can't police peoples hearts and minds - but you can their actions.

A cynic might suggest that they only thing they care about is money coming in, because that's all they mandate.

I would imagine that the issue with that is that they'd be opening themselves up to a lawsuit for restraint of trade, given it's not like a club who gets excluded from the league because of their owner's c*ntitude can just up and ply their trade in a different one, and the EFL doesn't want to be getting into a legal battle with a very wealthy owner. In addition, to a large extent the league is a creature of its member clubs and therefore by extension its owners - such an approach is unlikely to be welcomed by probably a fairly significant number of owners who are conscious of their own particular skeletons. Sit not in judgement lest you be yourself judged, and all that.
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The Daily Cut and Thrust / Re: Them there t'other clubs
Last post by tricky -
Correct. Co-operating with the values and rules of the organisation, can be a requirement to retain the golden share - or obrain it. In the same way that extra requirements on financial protection of football debt (beyond the laws of the land) are a requirement.

This is an issue of governance, not impossibility of meaningful sanction - it's right there. Sure, you can't police peoples hearts and minds - but you can their actions.

A cynic might suggest that they only thing they care about is money coming in, because that's all they mandate.
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The Daily Cut and Thrust / Re: The Plague, 2020/21
Last post by Guru -
There’s something in that article about this fella having a Cambridge University degree.

I mean, a Cambridge degree does not exclude ultimate f*ckwittery but poor education is not the issue in this case.
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The Daily Cut and Thrust / Re: Them there t'other clubs
Last post by Russ -
Nope. They can withhold the golden share, until all football creditors are paid by a new owner after administration. They could withhold the golden share until an owner, or officials, had made a clear undertaking to uphold the values and rules of the competition/association.

OK, but that's still asking for a commitment to ongoing good behaviour, not an affidavit that they've always been good.
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The Daily Cut and Thrust / Re: Them there t'other clubs
Last post by tricky -
Agreed, although presumably any such action would only be applicable to a club owner once they have become so. Sanctioning a club for something the owner did before he owned the club would be somewhat beyond their remit.
 Nope. They can withhold the golden share, until all football creditors are paid by a new owner after administration. They could withhold the golden share until an owner, or officials, had made a clear undertaking to uphold the values and rules of the competition/association.
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The Daily Cut and Thrust / Re: Them there t'other clubs
Last post by Russ -
The EFL cannot, and should not, be able to interfere in legal commercial transactions.

They should,  and probably could, apply sanction under the rules of their competitions and association, including suspension,  and possible withdrawal, of the 'golden share '.

Agreed, although presumably any such action would only be applicable to a club owner once they have become so. Sanctioning a club for something the owner did before he owned the club would be somewhat beyond their remit.
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The Daily Cut and Thrust / Re: The Plague, 2020/21
Last post by a JP -
This is a problem of education and trust in public institutions. It's a grave problem for democratic countries

- some of your population would rather believe random sh!t they read on the internet?! Act now. No - now  -

but it can't even be addressed in the UK, with the present government in power.