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The Daily Cut and Thrust / Re: This Europe Stuff
I have got to the stage I just want Brexit to be over, I don't really care if it's a deal, no deal or revoked. It's taken far to long to resolve and too many politicians have hidden agendas. Frankly it's embarrassing that the two main leaders are so incompetent. I don't think in the history of English politics have the public's opinion of politicians been so low.
You do know that if it's deal or no deal that's just the start, I hope?

You think this is embarrassing, just wait till they have to rebuild the economy, while negotiating trade deals, or worse.

You have no chance of outliving those outcomes. I don't think I have either. They will literally never stop for us.
The Daily Cut and Thrust / Re: What's annoying me today
Just seen the full resignation address from our current/former xenophobic self-absorbed Prime Minister.  Utterly, utterly, deranged in a totally emotionally retarded way.  An abject lesson in promoting people above their skill set.  One I fear that we are not going to learn, but are destined to re-visit. Soon, and probably often.
The Daily Cut and Thrust / Re: This Europe Stuff
I would think that everyone would be in favour of our democratic elections being held fairly and democratically according to our laws, if they were interested in getting our democracy back.

It's pretty clear that our rogue government needs help with the concept.
The Daily Cut and Thrust / Re: This Europe Stuff
So, apparently lots of EU citizens were turned away at the ballot boxes. But the UK is a member of the EU as things stand currently, and therefore any EU citizen resident in the UK surely has the right to vote who represents them in the European Parliament? This seems to me like an absolute dereliction of the basic responsibility to democracy.

Am I missing something here?
 Nope. May's career is built on specialising in overseeing institutionalised abuse of british citizens and residents who are not very home counties. What could be better than disenfranchising people of foreign origin? I doubt the electoral commission will do anything, because she got them to not investigate electoral illegality. What might be interesting is the view the EU take about it. It is not impossible that people of a Gina Miller type persuasion take the government to court.  There is a clear case to answer (it's the home government that is responsible for timing and preparation of European elections).
The Daily Cut and Thrust / Re: Ye Olde Laptop buying thread
These are a supplier that I have used often.  Tends to be manufacturing over-runs and "refurbished" can be anything from new, to actual refurbished old gear.  These laptops mainly all appear to have 1 yr manufacturers warranty's. £200 buys a decent i3 machine, £250 an i5 (they have dell and hp models). They always used to ship same day, so I imagine a call might be able to arrange a pick up. In glasgae, so 1 hr from edinbugh.
The Daily Cut and Thrust / Re: Ye Olde Laptop buying thread
I'm a sucker for a refurbed T440p , if we are playing prime.

(Can upgrade the processor, and the memory, and add more than one hard drive... Amazon sell decent 64gb hard drives for £20. Mine has 16GB memory, and I also have a couple of docks connected to fixed internet and multi monitor displays - which can be picked up for circa £20).

I love me a ThinkPad. Even a refurb.
The Daily Cut and Thrust / Re: Ye Olde Laptop buying thread
Anecdotally I hear that Ryzen is not any good. I don't know, I haven't tried. I only buy i3, i5, i7 processors in laptops, or xeons in workstations or servers. Almost exclusively reconditioned stuff. ThinkPad for laptops.

The weakness of our currency, and the torpor surrounding the computing industry currently, means that everything strikes me as poor value.